Cascadiabenz said:
This looks to be an Excellent auction if you are interested in learning how to deflect with out actually answering meaningful questions....thankfully the results are on par with the execution. I have found Mercedes people are sufficiently informed that they know and ask questions that need answering in order to have a semblance of confidence in the lot at hand. Trying to obfuscate and avoid is never advisable.
Are the gallery photographs showing the "new" engine after it was installed? It would appear as thought it has 30 years of grease and grime. Did this engine receive a fresh timing chain, guide rails and hydraulic tensioner? Were rocker arms inspected while the valve covers were off? Also, is this replacement engine a high compression, European specification variant or is it the neutered US iteration. I see that most of the fuel system is aged, and some lines have been spliced together. I have experienced the ravages of fuel on these old rubbers on many of my cars, I can't imagine this to be any different. Could someone do us all the kindness of looking under the rear window via the luggage compartment to see if there are any signs of rust? Perhaps this is not so much a concern in the USA but here across the way I've seen it in a number of C126's.
@RoofsforcarsBack when I used to work regularly out of NY and Paris the Concord made a days visit Possible. The convenience was unsurpassed. Where the headliner meets the sunroof it is clearly failing failing, as is the rear. Once any pull starts the remainder is very close behind. Having owned a number of SEC's over the years I am intimately familiar with this issue. The steering wheel looks nothing per the originals. The leather work is amateurish at best, at least per my standards, that which I base entirely on how Mercedes once did things. Pierre has raised a number of points, I am dismayed that despite such a significant undertaking not a solitary photo documenting the process was taken! Nor have any underside photos been garnered during this auctions tenure. I do appreciate the folks chiming in, but I say with all respect that we may just see things differently. Will continue to watch until the end, we'll see if bidding is such that it mitigates the risk/reward.
@TheAMGKit Sir, the seats alone will run around 5,000 USD to be done Properly. C pillars are NLA so one must Hope to find those that are sufficiently unmolested. I have been searching high and low for a dash assembly free of cracks to no avail. 1000 USD doesn't get you much of anything in the world of proper restoration of any automobile. Everyone has different standards, wonderfully done things cost money, I am at ease with that and learned my lessons many many years ago. If the Concorde was still in service inspecting the car over would be an easier task, alas such is not the case so I must be diligent as best I can from afar.
@RoofsforcarsAre we looking at the same car sir? The headliner is pulling at the leading edge and getting ready to sag in the rear. The C pillars look as though someone did not understand the peculiar clip arrangement so they no longer sit just as they should. I have a beautiful set of Recaro's in a few of my cars, they do not look as these do, if they did I'd have them sent off as I plan to do with this. Along those lines, I would again appreciate an estimate on works mentioned prior, would be ideal if that could all be tended prior to coming overseas.
Good Day All! If the interior is trully an almost 9 out of 10 I Kindly request a fresh round of photographs. From here it looks as though it needs tending and love from most every angle. Personally, I consider a 9 out 10 nearly new, with only minor signs of use evident. I believe that steering wheel has been re-covered and wrapped with out the old leather not having been removed prior to. I have that model wheel on one of my cars and the depth and thickness as seen in the photos looks decidedly off. Thankfully i do have an excellent man for steering wheel restoration in Italy.
Appreciate your efforts sir. The headliner is also in need of attention and my past experience with C126's tells me that it will soon be sitting on the next owners head with out love and attention. It is quite clear in the photos that both doors sag., no shadows. Once more, all C126's suffer this as they age, more so if the hinges are not properly lubed with a pressure gun. Shims are no longer available so adjusting can be a bit of a bear. No mention of build photos? I imagine it to be quite the process, having the opportunity to see the build as it progressed makes the endeavor all the more interesting at least to me! Blue dash boards are all but impossible to find, perhaps you can get an estimate on a recover in leather. Cracked dash boards are an irksome problem, more so with navy blue interiors. Merci!
Tres bien! Curious, can we look forward to paint meter readings? Any photographs of the work as it was being completed? I would also appreciate very much photos of the underside. I do not see much mention attention having been paid to the chassis and all that it entails to be a proper Sonderklasse Are you able to complete an interior refurbishment prior to sending the car? I feel as though the wear, tear and otherwise rough and tumble way of it is not in keeping with the rest of the car. Would a re-align of the door also be possible? I see both driver and passenger are hanging low, the body lines do not match.
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Euro-Spec 1985 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC
Cascadiabenz said:
This looks to be an Excellent auction if you are interested in learning how to deflect with out actually answering meaningful questions....thankfully the results are on par with the execution. I have found Mercedes people are sufficiently informed that they know and ask questions that need answering in order to have a semblance of confidence in the lot at hand. Trying to obfuscate and avoid is never advisable.Euro-Spec 1985 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC
Cascadiabenz said:
Are the gallery photographs showing the "new" engine after it was installed? It would appear as thought it has 30 years of grease and grime. Did this engine receive a fresh timing chain, guide rails and hydraulic tensioner? Were rocker arms inspected while the valve covers were off? Also, is this replacement engine a high compression, European specification variant or is it the neutered US iteration. I see that most of the fuel system is aged, and some lines have been spliced together. I have experienced the ravages of fuel on these old rubbers on many of my cars, I can't imagine this to be any different. Could someone do us all the kindness of looking under the rear window via the luggage compartment to see if there are any signs of rust? Perhaps this is not so much a concern in the USA but here across the way I've seen it in a number of C126's.5.4L M113-Swapped 1984 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC AMG Tribute
Cascadiabenz said:
@RoofsforcarsBack when I used to work regularly out of NY and Paris the Concord made a days visit Possible. The convenience was unsurpassed. Where the headliner meets the sunroof it is clearly failing failing, as is the rear. Once any pull starts the remainder is very close behind. Having owned a number of SEC's over the years I am intimately familiar with this issue. The steering wheel looks nothing per the originals. The leather work is amateurish at best, at least per my standards, that which I base entirely on how Mercedes once did things. Pierre has raised a number of points, I am dismayed that despite such a significant undertaking not a solitary photo documenting the process was taken! Nor have any underside photos been garnered during this auctions tenure. I do appreciate the folks chiming in, but I say with all respect that we may just see things differently. Will continue to watch until the end, we'll see if bidding is such that it mitigates the risk/reward.5.4L M113-Swapped 1984 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC AMG Tribute
Cascadiabenz said:
@TheAMGKit Sir, the seats alone will run around 5,000 USD to be done Properly. C pillars are NLA so one must Hope to find those that are sufficiently unmolested. I have been searching high and low for a dash assembly free of cracks to no avail. 1000 USD doesn't get you much of anything in the world of proper restoration of any automobile. Everyone has different standards, wonderfully done things cost money, I am at ease with that and learned my lessons many many years ago. If the Concorde was still in service inspecting the car over would be an easier task, alas such is not the case so I must be diligent as best I can from afar.5.4L M113-Swapped 1984 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC AMG Tribute
Cascadiabenz said:
@RoofsforcarsAre we looking at the same car sir? The headliner is pulling at the leading edge and getting ready to sag in the rear. The C pillars look as though someone did not understand the peculiar clip arrangement so they no longer sit just as they should. I have a beautiful set of Recaro's in a few of my cars, they do not look as these do, if they did I'd have them sent off as I plan to do with this. Along those lines, I would again appreciate an estimate on works mentioned prior, would be ideal if that could all be tended prior to coming overseas.5.4L M113-Swapped 1984 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC AMG Tribute
Cascadiabenz said:
Good Day All! If the interior is trully an almost 9 out of 10 I Kindly request a fresh round of photographs. From here it looks as though it needs tending and love from most every angle. Personally, I consider a 9 out 10 nearly new, with only minor signs of use evident. I believe that steering wheel has been re-covered and wrapped with out the old leather not having been removed prior to. I have that model wheel on one of my cars and the depth and thickness as seen in the photos looks decidedly off. Thankfully i do have an excellent man for steering wheel restoration in Italy.5.4L M113-Swapped 1984 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC AMG Tribute
Cascadiabenz said:
Appreciate your efforts sir. The headliner is also in need of attention and my past experience with C126's tells me that it will soon be sitting on the next owners head with out love and attention. It is quite clear in the photos that both doors sag., no shadows. Once more, all C126's suffer this as they age, more so if the hinges are not properly lubed with a pressure gun. Shims are no longer available so adjusting can be a bit of a bear. No mention of build photos? I imagine it to be quite the process, having the opportunity to see the build as it progressed makes the endeavor all the more interesting at least to me! Blue dash boards are all but impossible to find, perhaps you can get an estimate on a recover in leather. Cracked dash boards are an irksome problem, more so with navy blue interiors. Merci!5.4L M113-Swapped 1984 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC AMG Tribute
Cascadiabenz said:
Tres bien! Curious, can we look forward to paint meter readings? Any photographs of the work as it was being completed? I would also appreciate very much photos of the underside. I do not see much mention attention having been paid to the chassis and all that it entails to be a proper Sonderklasse Are you able to complete an interior refurbishment prior to sending the car? I feel as though the wear, tear and otherwise rough and tumble way of it is not in keeping with the rest of the car. Would a re-align of the door also be possible? I see both driver and passenger are hanging low, the body lines do not match.