Bid for your chance to own this 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16 only on The MB Market. Finished in Blue-Black Metallic (199) over Anthracite Leather (271), this W201 comes powered by a twin-charged 2.3-liter 16-valve engine with EVO II wheels and brakes and upgraded suspension components.
Bid for your chance to own this complete Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Body Kit for a W201 sedan on The MB Market. These parts are finished in Black Pearl Metallic (199) and were removed from the matching model and are offered as a comprehensive set.
StrategicMetal said:
@BabyBenzFanyou gave your 2 cents once, and I agreed with you and now you want to give it again after I give mine? Nice. I didn't have to sell the car since I have another 190, so I didn't have to "take the money and run" at a number well below what I have in the car. And in my 30 years of experience with modified vehicles, the right guys will pay up when they do the math on what has been done to it mods wise. Different strokes/different folks. Enjoy your period-correct, concourse w201s, and I'll enjoy my sacrilegious abominations ;)
@BabyBenzFan I agree with your point on the modification side of things. Especially on a homologation/specialty vehicle. But this is a great one to do it (high mileage/CarFax, but super-clean chassis) to if you want more oomph and something a little different. Appreciate the feedback.
@WaxhawFIveI was considering the plaid for sure. Didn't receive your msg, btw.
That got fun at the end! Appreciate all of the interest. And thanks to the MB Market crew for another well-run auction. Cheers!
@RVAE38 You commented on here earlier and I replied back, so you have my email.
@WaxhawFIveThe belt-driven system has been forgone since it shares some real estate with the supercharger placement. The guy who built the car was going to do an electric-over-hydraulic setup IIRC. But for me, it's actually very maneuverable as-is. I don't know if that's because its a gearbox setup, or the somewhat narrow tire profile, but it's much easier to 3-point/turn at low speeds than a de-powered r&p, and the road feel is very good.
Hi All - just wanted to reach out and say thanks for all of the interest and engaging comments thus far. I'll be readily available until the auction ends so that I may assist with any last-minute questions you may have. cheers, and good luck!
@JoealcoholYes it's all controlled by the ECU. So at roughly 30% throttle it will engage automatically. It also disengages automatically per manifold pressure (assuming to keep the boost from creeping past X RPM). As far as driving without the SC - it would be fine IMO (even though I never tried it) because the turbo is still making boost below the SC's current threshold. The SC is probably putting about 5 psi itself into the system, but that's not a direct 1:1 when something is twin-charged. I hope that helped!
@DrgeloI wasn't able to connect with the person who built it yet. I reached out a few days ago but no response yet. But someone on here messaged me directly and asked for more info on the build, so I compiled what, to the best of my knowledge, is done build-wise: - The suspension has, from what I can tell, every underside bushing replaced. It has been converted from active suspension to passive. It uses a Stagg brand spring/shock lowering kit, and it's roughly 3" lower than stock. It has a large front swaybar, and custom endlinks both front and rear. There is a custom made camber kit on it as well as a rear shock tower brace. I think I mentioned that it has genuine front/rear Evo II brake calipers and upgraded drilled rotors and stainless steel brake lines. I'm not sure of the brand/compound of the brake pad. The wheels are also genuine Evo II, and are 17 x 8/34" wide, wrapped in Essentially new 215/45 Toyo Proxes R1R. - The engine, from what i gathered has a higher compression piston in it (the vehicle made a significant amount of power N/A. Over 200whp), and just a basic refresh with some better gaskets and such to handle the increased loads (I have the balance of the gasket kit, which will come with the car). Nothing I know of is forged or anything, as the previous owner has the timing pretty conservative to keep it all happy. All of the additions to the engine are custom, and were made for this setup. The header is a one-off masterpiece out of stainless steel and has been ceramic coated. It's a long runner piece, that terminates in a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 9 style flange. An Evolution turbo has been fitted up with the 10.5cm exhaust housing (also ceramic coated). The compressor (also ceramic coated)has been upgraded to a 20g size, which is pretty large. The downpipe is also a really nice piece, going from the Mitsubishi flange to a 3" round downpipe. The downpipe then goes to 2.5", and contains both a resonator and a muffler (sounds great). The entire exhaust has trick V-band clamps, so you could easily take out the resonator, switch out the muffler, etc. if you want a different tone. The turbo exists into what looks to me like a retro-fitted Mitsubishi Starion intercooler. Nicely fabbed aluminum intercooler piping also holds a large Tial 50mm blow off valve. From there is heads into an m62 Mercedes supercharger (so like the one from a 2.3L Kompressor car) which is clutched and turns on/off via the ECU. It then heads to a really nice stainless steel intake plenum and into custom mounted e30 M3 individual throttle bodies. A one-off aluminum fuel rail holds the injectors, but I am unsure of the cc on those. It's all controlled by a custom MegaSquirt ms3 Pro which was wired/tuned by the former owner and it runs really nice.
@RVAE38 See my message to dansgross i just posted. Appreciate it.
@dansgrossI only brought it up because someone had asked why I was selling the 16v after recently buying it. I don't want to use this chat as a platform to advertise a car not listed with here, but I will email if you'd like to corroborate my story. Thanks.
@JDubauThanks for the compliment! And I agree with your logic on the insurance aspect of it.
@JoealcoholIt's a clean PA title, with no brands.
@Harvrajwans - I should be able to provide a build sheet. I don't currently have it doc form. But I am in somewhat regular contact with the previous owner who built it. - The original wing does not come with the car.
@gsxrthanks for the kind words. - You are correct on the A/C. - In terms of the "quick turnaround," I actually have another 190 that is highly modified, and am a bit torn on which to keep. I really like both builds, but unfortunately I can't keep both. So whichever sells, I will keep the other and continue modifying to my liking. - I'm checking on acquiring the dyno graph. If i do I will post it up.
Wild finish for sure @justadam ! Thanks to all who bid. And congrats to @micahdief for the win. We'll chat soon... Also wanted to thank @thembmarket , Ryan and Ben and the staff for helping me through my first auction. List with these guys - great communication throughout and solid functionality on the site backend. I have other interesting baby Benz parts to list, so stay tuned!
@carwiz - I have no idea. Any shipping for something of this size is most likely freight style. Maybe someone else familiar with type of shipping would know.
@henkkv - I'll ship it anywhere, as long as you are aware of the transportation costs associated with something of this magnitude.
@Justadamthanks for chiming in. Good point about the bumper - never thought of it, but now that you say it, if someone hasn't seen one of the rear bumpers deconstructed, it would be confusing. And also correct on the spec. If you run the VIN in the listing, you'll see it was indeed a "491" U.S. code 1987.
@k9strategies - I can't say for certain since I've never had the kits side-by-side to compare part #s. But i do know that one of the easiest/best way to make either an Evo II or Evo II clone is to start with a 2.3/5 - 16v kit. Take that for what it's worth.
@k9strategies - it sounds like you know. Is it?
@k9strategies - an Evo 1 or 2 car/kit is an entirely different animal. Just dona Google search on Evo 1, Evo II and 2.3-16v to see the difference. They are all very different from one another.
@K9StrategiesThis is the full factory 2.3-16v body kit from a U.S. spec car. No Evo 1 parts.
@motorderbyThanks for chiming in on that.
@K9Strategiessuper cool build! Good luck with it!
@BabyBenzFanIt must be an optical illusion - this is not an Evo I wing. This is the factory, dense foam style 2.3-16v wing.
Hi all - I'm selling this very rare body kit because I have moved onto a different Mercedes project, and no longer need it, or the other 2.3 parts that I have accumulated for it. I've owned it for about 6 years; I pulled it off of a car at a dismantler in Ohio. If you have any additional questions, or need more media, please don't hesitate to comment. Thank you, and good luck!
@motorderbyIndeed! ThanksI believe less than 2000 of these are true U.S. cars. And not many of them get parted out anymore.
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Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@BabyBenzFanyou gave your 2 cents once, and I agreed with you and now you want to give it again after I give mine? Nice. I didn't have to sell the car since I have another 190, so I didn't have to "take the money and run" at a number well below what I have in the car. And in my 30 years of experience with modified vehicles, the right guys will pay up when they do the math on what has been done to it mods wise. Different strokes/different folks. Enjoy your period-correct, concourse w201s, and I'll enjoy my sacrilegious abominations ;)Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@BabyBenzFan I agree with your point on the modification side of things. Especially on a homologation/specialty vehicle. But this is a great one to do it (high mileage/CarFax, but super-clean chassis) to if you want more oomph and something a little different. Appreciate the feedback.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@WaxhawFIveI was considering the plaid for sure. Didn't receive your msg, btw.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
That got fun at the end! Appreciate all of the interest. And thanks to the MB Market crew for another well-run auction. Cheers!Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@RVAE38 You commented on here earlier and I replied back, so you have my email.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@WaxhawFIveThe belt-driven system has been forgone since it shares some real estate with the supercharger placement. The guy who built the car was going to do an electric-over-hydraulic setup IIRC. But for me, it's actually very maneuverable as-is. I don't know if that's because its a gearbox setup, or the somewhat narrow tire profile, but it's much easier to 3-point/turn at low speeds than a de-powered r&p, and the road feel is very good.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
Hi All - just wanted to reach out and say thanks for all of the interest and engaging comments thus far. I'll be readily available until the auction ends so that I may assist with any last-minute questions you may have. cheers, and good luck!Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@JoealcoholYes it's all controlled by the ECU. So at roughly 30% throttle it will engage automatically. It also disengages automatically per manifold pressure (assuming to keep the boost from creeping past X RPM). As far as driving without the SC - it would be fine IMO (even though I never tried it) because the turbo is still making boost below the SC's current threshold. The SC is probably putting about 5 psi itself into the system, but that's not a direct 1:1 when something is twin-charged. I hope that helped!Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@DrgeloI wasn't able to connect with the person who built it yet. I reached out a few days ago but no response yet. But someone on here messaged me directly and asked for more info on the build, so I compiled what, to the best of my knowledge, is done build-wise: - The suspension has, from what I can tell, every underside bushing replaced. It has been converted from active suspension to passive. It uses a Stagg brand spring/shock lowering kit, and it's roughly 3" lower than stock. It has a large front swaybar, and custom endlinks both front and rear. There is a custom made camber kit on it as well as a rear shock tower brace. I think I mentioned that it has genuine front/rear Evo II brake calipers and upgraded drilled rotors and stainless steel brake lines. I'm not sure of the brand/compound of the brake pad. The wheels are also genuine Evo II, and are 17 x 8/34" wide, wrapped in Essentially new 215/45 Toyo Proxes R1R. - The engine, from what i gathered has a higher compression piston in it (the vehicle made a significant amount of power N/A. Over 200whp), and just a basic refresh with some better gaskets and such to handle the increased loads (I have the balance of the gasket kit, which will come with the car). Nothing I know of is forged or anything, as the previous owner has the timing pretty conservative to keep it all happy. All of the additions to the engine are custom, and were made for this setup. The header is a one-off masterpiece out of stainless steel and has been ceramic coated. It's a long runner piece, that terminates in a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 9 style flange. An Evolution turbo has been fitted up with the 10.5cm exhaust housing (also ceramic coated). The compressor (also ceramic coated)has been upgraded to a 20g size, which is pretty large. The downpipe is also a really nice piece, going from the Mitsubishi flange to a 3" round downpipe. The downpipe then goes to 2.5", and contains both a resonator and a muffler (sounds great). The entire exhaust has trick V-band clamps, so you could easily take out the resonator, switch out the muffler, etc. if you want a different tone. The turbo exists into what looks to me like a retro-fitted Mitsubishi Starion intercooler. Nicely fabbed aluminum intercooler piping also holds a large Tial 50mm blow off valve. From there is heads into an m62 Mercedes supercharger (so like the one from a 2.3L Kompressor car) which is clutched and turns on/off via the ECU. It then heads to a really nice stainless steel intake plenum and into custom mounted e30 M3 individual throttle bodies. A one-off aluminum fuel rail holds the injectors, but I am unsure of the cc on those. It's all controlled by a custom MegaSquirt ms3 Pro which was wired/tuned by the former owner and it runs really nice.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@RVAE38 See my message to dansgross i just posted. Appreciate it.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@dansgrossI only brought it up because someone had asked why I was selling the 16v after recently buying it. I don't want to use this chat as a platform to advertise a car not listed with here, but I will email if you'd like to corroborate my story. Thanks.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@JDubauThanks for the compliment! And I agree with your logic on the insurance aspect of it.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@JoealcoholIt's a clean PA title, with no brands.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@Harvrajwans - I should be able to provide a build sheet. I don't currently have it doc form. But I am in somewhat regular contact with the previous owner who built it. - The original wing does not come with the car.Twin-Charged 1987 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v "Cosworth"
StrategicMetal said:
@gsxrthanks for the kind words. - You are correct on the A/C. - In terms of the "quick turnaround," I actually have another 190 that is highly modified, and am a bit torn on which to keep. I really like both builds, but unfortunately I can't keep both. So whichever sells, I will keep the other and continue modifying to my liking. - I'm checking on acquiring the dyno graph. If i do I will post it up.W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
Wild finish for sure @justadam ! Thanks to all who bid. And congrats to @micahdief for the win. We'll chat soon... Also wanted to thank @thembmarket , Ryan and Ben and the staff for helping me through my first auction. List with these guys - great communication throughout and solid functionality on the site backend. I have other interesting baby Benz parts to list, so stay tuned!W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@carwiz - I have no idea. Any shipping for something of this size is most likely freight style. Maybe someone else familiar with type of shipping would know.W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@henkkv - I'll ship it anywhere, as long as you are aware of the transportation costs associated with something of this magnitude.W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@Justadamthanks for chiming in. Good point about the bumper - never thought of it, but now that you say it, if someone hasn't seen one of the rear bumpers deconstructed, it would be confusing. And also correct on the spec. If you run the VIN in the listing, you'll see it was indeed a "491" U.S. code 1987.W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@k9strategies - I can't say for certain since I've never had the kits side-by-side to compare part #s. But i do know that one of the easiest/best way to make either an Evo II or Evo II clone is to start with a 2.3/5 - 16v kit. Take that for what it's worth.W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@k9strategies - it sounds like you know. Is it?W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@k9strategies - an Evo 1 or 2 car/kit is an entirely different animal. Just dona Google search on Evo 1, Evo II and 2.3-16v to see the difference. They are all very different from one another.W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@K9StrategiesThis is the full factory 2.3-16v body kit from a U.S. spec car. No Evo 1 parts.W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@motorderbyThanks for chiming in on that.W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@K9Strategiessuper cool build! Good luck with it!W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@BabyBenzFanIt must be an optical illusion - this is not an Evo I wing. This is the factory, dense foam style 2.3-16v wing.W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
Hi all - I'm selling this very rare body kit because I have moved onto a different Mercedes project, and no longer need it, or the other 2.3 parts that I have accumulated for it. I've owned it for about 6 years; I pulled it off of a car at a dismantler in Ohio. If you have any additional questions, or need more media, please don't hesitate to comment. Thank you, and good luck!W201 Mercedes-Benz 190E Cosworth 2.3-16 Complete Body Kit
StrategicMetal said:
@motorderbyIndeed! ThanksI believe less than 2000 of these are true U.S. cars. And not many of them get parted out anymore.