LT77 bid $1,550
LT77 said:
Suede Lord... that is a unique interior! The gauges are standard US market, and not AMG Euro units.. kind of curious to go through the trouble to change them. Low tail, Gen 1 AMG kit -- Euro market for sure. A 38 year old M117 32-valve is no joke -- recently saw a Hammer that had been worked on by an expert and it sounded a bit funny-not-so-funny. @Stuttgart_Steel Would it be possible to have a video and sound of a cold start, idle, and a quick run through the gears?
Agreed @AMG5pt4 - the term has different meanings to different car collectors. And, yes to all wear parts, rotors, pads, hoses, gaskets, etc. Change them when necessary! However, where I disagree with you (and maybe AMG) is the engine modification part and originality. Altering the displacement of the engine is much more critical than changing brake pads, which anyone with a tool set can do. For originality, 5.4 liters is what AMG specified the engine as, and it is the main reason this car is special. So, yes, I think 5.4 liter is original - and 5.5 is modified. Mainly asking questions about the AMG certification process, as this has a great significance to the value of the car. I doubt Ferrari would offer a Classiche certificate if they knew engine can be modified by the owner, Joe, or someone outside Ferrari. But, like you said, this is more about AMG standards. No discrediting you, or the car. @sdpsupercars Agreed, a period correct upgrade is nice way to "up" the performance. No qualms about that, or the springs, shocks, even muffler? > But, for me frame or engine modifications (turbo anyone?) weigh more. Follow up question -- How do the larger pistons (ligher weight??) work with the original cams, and did you do the engine tuning yourself? Did you notice a difference in power or how the engine revs? I bet the car is fantastic to drive!
Beautiful car, but here is what i don't get.. “This car is numbers matching with original paint and interior. ....changing the diff ratio to 2.82 from stock 2.24 and rebuilding the engine with slightly higher displacement with new, modern forged pistons. “ How is this an original "certified" 5.4 AMG when the engine was built to "about 5.5 liters” by @AMG5pt4, his brother, and a famous but unnamed machinist? I would say highly modified is more accurate than original as the engine is the center piece of the build. Not questioning the integrity of the owners attention to detail or quality of work here (looks professional) - but wondering how the car got certified as original AMG if the engine was rebuilt with new displacement.. Somehow it feels a bit not-original-AMG if i myself built the engine, no? I may have missed it in earlier comments, but why was the engine rebuilt in the first place.. did the original engine seize? Cheers!
Can you elaborate on the body repairs noted in seevice records from 2023. Also, has the retractable roof system has been serviced / overhauled or stilm with original parts from 2006? Can you provide images of the hydraulic pumps for roof system located underneath the bonnet.
Sweet!
I have seen this car in person at RENNtech. I drove it to the photo shoot (forest road) and saw it being serviced and Dyno'd.. The power was calculated with a 25% Drivetrain Loss (not Hartmut's handwriting). The owner does not spare any expenses in maintaining his collection, and is an outstanding person to deal with! If you have any questions about the maintenance or service, don't hesitate to reach out to RENNtech. Good luck to bidders - we'll be watching.
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1987 Mercedes-Benz 6.0 AMG Hammer w/29k Miles
LT77 said:
Suede Lord... that is a unique interior! The gauges are standard US market, and not AMG Euro units.. kind of curious to go through the trouble to change them. Low tail, Gen 1 AMG kit -- Euro market for sure. A 38 year old M117 32-valve is no joke -- recently saw a Hammer that had been worked on by an expert and it sounded a bit funny-not-so-funny. @Stuttgart_Steel Would it be possible to have a video and sound of a cold start, idle, and a quick run through the gears?1984 Mercedes-Benz 500SEL 5.4 AMG
LT77 said:
Agreed @AMG5pt4 - the term has different meanings to different car collectors. And, yes to all wear parts, rotors, pads, hoses, gaskets, etc. Change them when necessary! However, where I disagree with you (and maybe AMG) is the engine modification part and originality. Altering the displacement of the engine is much more critical than changing brake pads, which anyone with a tool set can do. For originality, 5.4 liters is what AMG specified the engine as, and it is the main reason this car is special. So, yes, I think 5.4 liter is original - and 5.5 is modified. Mainly asking questions about the AMG certification process, as this has a great significance to the value of the car. I doubt Ferrari would offer a Classiche certificate if they knew engine can be modified by the owner, Joe, or someone outside Ferrari. But, like you said, this is more about AMG standards. No discrediting you, or the car. @sdpsupercars Agreed, a period correct upgrade is nice way to "up" the performance. No qualms about that, or the springs, shocks, even muffler? > But, for me frame or engine modifications (turbo anyone?) weigh more. Follow up question -- How do the larger pistons (ligher weight??) work with the original cams, and did you do the engine tuning yourself? Did you notice a difference in power or how the engine revs? I bet the car is fantastic to drive!1984 Mercedes-Benz 500SEL 5.4 AMG
LT77 said:
Beautiful car, but here is what i don't get.. “This car is numbers matching with original paint and interior. ....changing the diff ratio to 2.82 from stock 2.24 and rebuilding the engine with slightly higher displacement with new, modern forged pistons. “ How is this an original "certified" 5.4 AMG when the engine was built to "about 5.5 liters” by @AMG5pt4, his brother, and a famous but unnamed machinist? I would say highly modified is more accurate than original as the engine is the center piece of the build. Not questioning the integrity of the owners attention to detail or quality of work here (looks professional) - but wondering how the car got certified as original AMG if the engine was rebuilt with new displacement.. Somehow it feels a bit not-original-AMG if i myself built the engine, no? I may have missed it in earlier comments, but why was the engine rebuilt in the first place.. did the original engine seize? Cheers!2006 Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG RENNtech
LT77 said:
Can you elaborate on the body repairs noted in seevice records from 2023. Also, has the retractable roof system has been serviced / overhauled or stilm with original parts from 2006? Can you provide images of the hydraulic pumps for roof system located underneath the bonnet.M117 Tri-Y Headers for Mercedes-Benz W/C126
LT77 said:
Sweet!Modified Euro 1988 Mercedes-Benz 500SEC
LT77 said:
I have seen this car in person at RENNtech. I drove it to the photo shoot (forest road) and saw it being serviced and Dyno'd.. The power was calculated with a 25% Drivetrain Loss (not Hartmut's handwriting). The owner does not spare any expenses in maintaining his collection, and is an outstanding person to deal with! If you have any questions about the maintenance or service, don't hesitate to reach out to RENNtech. Good luck to bidders - we'll be watching.