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DrAMG said:
Congrats to both parties, this is a really unique and clean S123 AMG. I’ve seen pictures of this car years ago, but no where to the details as what’s seen in this listing. Happy to hear this one may end up in the US. That would be the 4th AMG wagon I know of that’s in the US. A very exclusive club when it comes to this model.
Perhaps I’m not understanding the dyno runs correctly, but in both runs, the maximum horsepower figure I observed was 128. This can’t be correct, as a stock motor should have more power. Regarding the wheels spinning at 297 km/h, this is misleading. You have to factor the differential ratio, weight and aerodynamics of the car. AMG had to do a whole lot of creativity to get the W124 Hammer to break the 300 km/h mark and that involved a 32V 6.0 motor.
I would like to correct the listing description for the seller and so that bidders are not surprised. The front spoiler, based on the part number and markings is for a Gen II European SE/SEL (sedan). It will not fit a SEC correctly as the profile of the sides will not sit flush. You might be able to make it work by massaging and bondo, but it will alter the original shape and design of the spoiler. The side skirts are 2-piece and were designed so that it could be cut to length from a SEL to a SEC. Rear apron are the same for W126 and C126.
Seller, are there any markings, stamps, badges or paperwork that says this was a Trasco-built limo? Some of the interior workmanship leads me to believe it was done in the US.
Although I may sound bias, this model (190E/w201) in this latest AMG kit is the best looking AMG of the pre-merger era. Lots of close seconds, but by size and looks, is just perfect to me.
Great example! I love the 280TE and wish we had more of these models here, but they were rare to begin with with far fewer examples being imported into the US. The description used by MB Market needs to be checked. Says there’s a lockable glovebox when pictures show otherwise. Very rare options such as the heated seats are not mentioned. To the seller, the car is listed as a 1980. There are some features on the car that didn’t come out until very late 1980/1981. Could the car be in fact a 1981 model year?
Could you confirm the transmission works as it should without any odd sounds, worn gears and/or other damages?
@StuttgartClassixsorry, you’re right. That was a typo. It was supposed to be Gen 2 Euro.
@AE1728no it won’t and it would be a shame if someone would cut/modify a new exhaust like this to make it fit a w201.
@StuttgartClassix I have great knowledge on the subject and have had several sets and still have spares for my personal cars. The pictured spoilers all look authentic and have the correct markings, labels and stickers. The Eastern European copies are made out of fiberglass. Authentic pieces are not fiberglass. A simple “tap” of the materials will let you know the difference. For those who were curious about how a sedan Gen 3 Euro spoiler fits on a Gen 2 Euro SEC front bumper, it will be close but the sides of the spoiler will not sit flush. There will be 1/2” gaps along the sides working its way up to the top of the bumper.
I’m curious if this kit also contained stickers? My 190E AMG that has the same spoiler had one or 2 silver with black lettering stickers affixed. On a side note, this style spoiler looks amazing on the w201 and 124 chassis.
I have a sweet spot for the 280TE. Approximately 20k units were produced worldwide. This is the top of the line model, although some argue the 300TDT is, but performance-wise, this is the car. It’s a shame we never got these cars in the US, and it’s hard to compare the Euro spec motor to the lethargic and lower compression US variant M110. Very few were privately imported and are still around. I noticed this car appears to have had an AMG kit at one point. You can see the outlines and holes in the body where it was once attached. Is this the same 280TE that was for sale several years back with the AMG kit and Centra wheels?
I’m tempted to bid just to have as a spare. I just installed a NOS unit to my wagon this past summer. Same green adhesive stickers and at the time I was thinking there’s got to be only a handful of these out there.
Great item, sort of makes me wish I had a car to put this on. To answer the question about the HWA part numbers, that started in late 1991.
@jago_mbit also claims it has a factory air suspension.
Extremely rare item, especially in NOS condition. One thing not seen in the pictures or seen being mentioned is the missing camshaft. If the M103 was anything like my 2.6 M102 Brabus head, it was converted to a mechanically adjusted lifter set up.
@edand Euro motors were higher compression. I’m going by memory here, but the US spec 16v’s were rated in the 150’s hp while the Euro model was around 185hp.
Hello seller, is this motor out of a US spec or a Euro spec 16V? I know the US spec is lower performance compared to the Euro version.
This is a spoiler designed to fit the Gen 1 sedan bumper. It does not have the cut outs to go around the fog lights seen for the C126 spoiler.
@KRH1hi Kim! I just want to correct a statement about the front bumper. The version you described is what was seen typically on Japanese market examples. The one pictured on the car in question is a correct style and is the “original” look. Now back to the car being listed, the only thing that can be visibly authenticated as a real AMG piece are the wheels. The bodykit is not an authentic piece, just in the style of one. It was discussed at the previous listing. The photos of the last listing are by far one of my favorite of a w126 in AMG styling.
@Shervinburlwood was an option except for the SEC models. US spec 500’s came with burlwood as a standard package. Even the Euro market 280’s could be optioned with burlwood. As to the car being listed, I think it would look much better had it been equipped with the proper wheels for a pre-1986 version. Basketweave Rials, BBS or even the 5 spoke ATS AMG wheels would have pulled off the look better. Thin saying this while I acknowledge that the 3 piece AMG wheels are my all-time favorite wheels. As to the steering wheel, that style was not involved with AMG’s styling. The version 2 which the wheel is came out in the late 80’s.
@pcm1 understood. I still didn’t get an answer to my original question. I’m trying to zoom in on the pictures and I feel it’s a one piece bumper and spoiler. Can you verify that the bumper does in fact have metal trim that was painted over?
LOVE the look of the car! Curious, did this car have Gen 2 Euro bumpers installed with genuine AMG spoilers? Are the chrome trim on the bumpers painted or is it integrated as one piece?
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1982 Mercedes-Benz 280TE AMG
DrAMG said:
Congrats to both parties, this is a really unique and clean S123 AMG. I’ve seen pictures of this car years ago, but no where to the details as what’s seen in this listing. Happy to hear this one may end up in the US. That would be the 4th AMG wagon I know of that’s in the US. A very exclusive club when it comes to this model.Euro 1985 Mercedes-Benz 500SEL AMG Tribute
DrAMG said:
Perhaps I’m not understanding the dyno runs correctly, but in both runs, the maximum horsepower figure I observed was 128. This can’t be correct, as a stock motor should have more power. Regarding the wheels spinning at 297 km/h, this is misleading. You have to factor the differential ratio, weight and aerodynamics of the car. AMG had to do a whole lot of creativity to get the W124 Hammer to break the 300 km/h mark and that involved a 32V 6.0 motor.Premerger Gen 2 AMG Body Kit for Euro C126 SEC
DrAMG said:
I would like to correct the listing description for the seller and so that bidders are not surprised. The front spoiler, based on the part number and markings is for a Gen II European SE/SEL (sedan). It will not fit a SEC correctly as the profile of the sides will not sit flush. You might be able to make it work by massaging and bondo, but it will alter the original shape and design of the spoiler. The side skirts are 2-piece and were designed so that it could be cut to length from a SEL to a SEC. Rear apron are the same for W126 and C126.Euro 1986 Mercedes-Benz 500SEL Limousine by Trasco
DrAMG said:
Seller, are there any markings, stamps, badges or paperwork that says this was a Trasco-built limo? Some of the interior workmanship leads me to believe it was done in the US.1991 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.6 AMG
DrAMG said:
Although I may sound bias, this model (190E/w201) in this latest AMG kit is the best looking AMG of the pre-merger era. Lots of close seconds, but by size and looks, is just perfect to me.1980 Mercedes-Benz 280TE Wagon
DrAMG said:
Great example! I love the 280TE and wish we had more of these models here, but they were rare to begin with with far fewer examples being imported into the US. The description used by MB Market needs to be checked. Says there’s a lockable glovebox when pictures show otherwise. Very rare options such as the heated seats are not mentioned. To the seller, the car is listed as a 1980. There are some features on the car that didn’t come out until very late 1980/1981. Could the car be in fact a 1981 model year?Mercedes-Benz Getrag 717.400 5-Speed Transmission
DrAMG said:
Could you confirm the transmission works as it should without any odd sounds, worn gears and/or other damages?Authentic W126 AMG Gen 2 Euro Full Body Kit (New Old Stock)
DrAMG said:
@StuttgartClassixsorry, you’re right. That was a typo. It was supposed to be Gen 2 Euro.Premerger AMG W126 Full Exhaust (New Old Stock)
DrAMG said:
@AE1728no it won’t and it would be a shame if someone would cut/modify a new exhaust like this to make it fit a w201.Authentic W126 AMG Gen 2 Euro Full Body Kit (New Old Stock)
DrAMG said:
@StuttgartClassix I have great knowledge on the subject and have had several sets and still have spares for my personal cars. The pictured spoilers all look authentic and have the correct markings, labels and stickers. The Eastern European copies are made out of fiberglass. Authentic pieces are not fiberglass. A simple “tap” of the materials will let you know the difference. For those who were curious about how a sedan Gen 3 Euro spoiler fits on a Gen 2 Euro SEC front bumper, it will be close but the sides of the spoiler will not sit flush. There will be 1/2” gaps along the sides working its way up to the top of the bumper.Authentic W201 3-Piece Premerger AMG Spoiler
DrAMG said:
I’m curious if this kit also contained stickers? My 190E AMG that has the same spoiler had one or 2 silver with black lettering stickers affixed. On a side note, this style spoiler looks amazing on the w201 and 124 chassis.1984 Mercedes-Benz 280TE 5-Speed Manual
DrAMG said:
I have a sweet spot for the 280TE. Approximately 20k units were produced worldwide. This is the top of the line model, although some argue the 300TDT is, but performance-wise, this is the car. It’s a shame we never got these cars in the US, and it’s hard to compare the Euro spec motor to the lethargic and lower compression US variant M110. Very few were privately imported and are still around. I noticed this car appears to have had an AMG kit at one point. You can see the outlines and holes in the body where it was once attached. Is this the same 280TE that was for sale several years back with the AMG kit and Centra wheels?New Old Stock AMG S123 Wagon Spoiler
DrAMG said:
I’m tempted to bid just to have as a spare. I just installed a NOS unit to my wagon this past summer. Same green adhesive stickers and at the time I was thinking there’s got to be only a handful of these out there.Authentic C124 3-Piece Premerger AMG Spoiler
DrAMG said:
Great item, sort of makes me wish I had a car to put this on. To answer the question about the HWA part numbers, that started in late 1991.Euro-Spec 1987 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL
DrAMG said:
@jago_mbit also claims it has a factory air suspension.New Old Stock BRABUS AB4 M103 Head
DrAMG said:
Extremely rare item, especially in NOS condition. One thing not seen in the pictures or seen being mentioned is the missing camshaft. If the M103 was anything like my 2.6 M102 Brabus head, it was converted to a mechanically adjusted lifter set up.NO RESERVE: M102 2.3-16v Cosworth Engine
DrAMG said:
@edand Euro motors were higher compression. I’m going by memory here, but the US spec 16v’s were rated in the 150’s hp while the Euro model was around 185hp.NO RESERVE: M102 2.3-16v Cosworth Engine
DrAMG said:
Hello seller, is this motor out of a US spec or a Euro spec 16V? I know the US spec is lower performance compared to the Euro version.W126 AMG Front Lip Spoiler (New Old Stock)
DrAMG said:
This is a spoiler designed to fit the Gen 1 sedan bumper. It does not have the cut outs to go around the fog lights seen for the C126 spoiler.1990 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL AMG
DrAMG said:
@KRH1hi Kim! I just want to correct a statement about the front bumper. The version you described is what was seen typically on Japanese market examples. The one pictured on the car in question is a correct style and is the “original” look. Now back to the car being listed, the only thing that can be visibly authenticated as a real AMG piece are the wheels. The bodykit is not an authentic piece, just in the style of one. It was discussed at the previous listing. The photos of the last listing are by far one of my favorite of a w126 in AMG styling.1981 Mercedes-Benz 500SEL AMG
DrAMG said:
@Shervinburlwood was an option except for the SEC models. US spec 500’s came with burlwood as a standard package. Even the Euro market 280’s could be optioned with burlwood. As to the car being listed, I think it would look much better had it been equipped with the proper wheels for a pre-1986 version. Basketweave Rials, BBS or even the 5 spoke ATS AMG wheels would have pulled off the look better. Thin saying this while I acknowledge that the 3 piece AMG wheels are my all-time favorite wheels. As to the steering wheel, that style was not involved with AMG’s styling. The version 2 which the wheel is came out in the late 80’s.1990 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL AMG w/43k Miles
DrAMG said:
@pcm1 understood. I still didn’t get an answer to my original question. I’m trying to zoom in on the pictures and I feel it’s a one piece bumper and spoiler. Can you verify that the bumper does in fact have metal trim that was painted over?1990 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL AMG w/43k Miles
DrAMG said:
LOVE the look of the car! Curious, did this car have Gen 2 Euro bumpers installed with genuine AMG spoilers? Are the chrome trim on the bumpers painted or is it integrated as one piece?